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>> jennifer: the fiery attacks in libya that killed the american ambassador and three diplomat there is were quickly followed by fiery political rhetoric here at home. ambassador j. christopher stevens and three other u.s. officials were killed last night. details about the attacks are still coming in, but here is the latest of what we do know. back in july an incendiary ridiculous movie about muslims was released reportedly by a guy named sam sam sam bacile. he claims to be an israeli. it's not clear who he is, whether he is an israeli and whether a guy named sam bacile exists. but it was so offensive that the grand musti of jackpot condemned

it. and roughly 2,000 demonstrators assembleed around the u.s. embassy in cairo. the diplomatic workers inside that embassy saw this protest developing and they understandably were worried about their safety by this situation that was developing. they calmed them down saying, the embassy of the united states in kay row condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt religious feelings of muslims as we condemn hurt thosecondemn efforts to offend believers of all religious. later, no one was hurt and protesters eventually disbanded. as that situation in egypt was

winding down, the situation in libya was getting worse. so ten hours after the statement was issued in cairo at about 4:00 in the afternoon then attackers in libya entered the american consulate in benghazi and started firing. three americans were trapped inside including ambassador stevens. if this were not enough of a crisis going on, back at home mitt romney decides to weigh in before it's even clear what is going on in libya. so at 10:30 last night romney issues a statement attacking the cairo embassy's statement earlier, when those guys were just trying to diffuse the situation on the ground. romney said in his statement last night, it's disgraceful that the obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our top plow our

diplomatic missions but to sympathize with those who wage attacks. at the point that the cairo embassy had issued their statements, there had been no attacks. a protest was gathering. but after romney issued that statement last night, it was confirmed that, in fact, the ambassador in libya was killed. now, all of this happened and romney is publicly criticized for jumping the gun on issuing his statement before he even knew what the heck was going on. so what does he do? he doubles down on the wrongful criticism of the president. >> romney: a terrible course for america to stand in apology for our values that instead when our grounds are being attacked and being breached that the first response to the united states must be outrage at breach of the sovereignty of our nation.

>> jennifer: unbelievable. the president did, in fact, express outrage of the facts. romney did it before he had the facts. he said, quote he strongly condemned the attack. the president had choice words for mitt romney as well. >> obama: there is a broader lesson to be learned here. govern romney has a tendency to shoot first and aim later. as president one of the things i learned is you can't do that. >> jennifer: romney not only spoke much too soon, he also doesn't have a clear position on how the u.s. should handle libya over all. romney asked on his position on libya last april at an event held by sheldon adelson.

he said, quote after his speech romney refused to take questions from reporters about his position on libya. instead, he and his wife, ann fled down a hallway and escaped up an escalator to avoid any answers questions about libya. after his saber rattling today even some republicans suggested that mitt romney was actually better off not saying anything at all especially after last night's events. here's conservative columnist peggy noonan on fox news. >> i don't feel that mr. romney has been doing himself any favors, say, in the past few hours perhaps since last night. sometimes when things happen, cool words or no words is the way to go. >> jennifer: honestly, he probably should have just run down the hall and escaped up an escalator. the kind of rhetoric he has put out in the middle of the crisis

is not just inept, it is dangerous. now, romney does have some defenders. sarah palin, donald rumsfeld, well, as they say, you can certainly tell a lot about a person by the company that they keep. joining us now from washington, d.c. is lawrence korb. the senior fellow at the center for american progress, and he served as assistant secretary of defense from '81 to '85. thank you so much for being here. >> nice to be with you. >> jennifer: great, so why do you think that mitt romney went on the attack the way that he did? do you think it was getting flack for not being strong enough against president obama? >> well, i think there were two reasons. number one the republicans traditionalcally have had an advantage in foreign policy. they don't this time. one of his themes has been obama

has always apologized. not true. the fact checkers say it's not true. but this fit into his narrative. when he heard it, he left into the breach without thinking, or as the president said, shooting before he aimed. >> jennifer: well,--this goes into a bigger issue with respect to the issue in in the middle east, and the president sold tell telemundo, he said they're not an ally. what do you think he met about that. >> mu barrack was an an alley. we did a lot of training in their country and we felt that the deal that jimmy carter

brokered between sudat and the israelis. they had an election and they picked president morsi who is a member of the muslim brotherhood, and they have different views of world events than we do. it's a different nation that we'll have to get along with as we've dealt with independent nations over the years. the whole middle east is changing, in the long run it will be better for them. but in the short run with these instability and different relationships, we'll have to adjust to it. >> jennifer: what do you think the impact of someone like mitt romney weighing in, condemning condemning--the statement by the egyptian embassy condemning prematurely, before he has all the facts what do you think that impact has on relationships in the middle east if any? >> well, i think it really hurts. if you go back and take a look

at what former president bush said after the danish cartoon or when the soldier said that he was going to burn a qur'an in iraq, he said, i apologize for people being so insensitive. people criticize president bush for a lot of things, but when it came to the muslim world, he didn't want to make them an enemy. mitt romney place into the narrative that we're out to undermine them and destroy their civilization. it's really in my view it's a sign of desperation. he knows that his campaign is not going the way he wants and he was sort of rolling the dice with this. >> jennifer: there is some suspicion, a lot of public speculation that this attack on libya and in egypt was not really a result of the film, but

more a coordinateed attack to coincide with 9/11 by terrorist organizations. there are now 50 marines and two destroyers going to libya. what is going on? >> well, basically there is no doubt about the fact that there are groups in that part of the world who buy into the bin laden theirtive. this is the first 9/11 or the second one since bin laden has been killed, and they want to show that they're still viable. this horrible movie gave impetus to their narrative and god folks whofolks who normally would not be attracted to them riled up because of the prophet muhammad. what they said about the prophet muhammad is horrible. they accused him of every sin in the book.

you can see why those who normally would not be attracted to the bin laden narrative would be upset about this. >> jennifer: do you know who made it. the actors say they were duped into being into it, and their voices were dubbed after the fact to say things that were horrendous. any intelligence about it? >> basically i saw that statement. it says we were taken to the cleaners. who is involved with this is the same pastor down in florida if you remember he was the one who said he would like to burn qur'ans and general petraeus said you're going to kill americans with this, pastor jones. so he seemed to be involved in some form or another. >> jennifer: it is a crazy situation, and made all the more crazy because of a presidential candidate prematurely jumping in when it was not a good idea to

do so. lawrence korb, stay where you are. after the break we'll come back to you and another ambassador. it's not what you can see coming down the road that turns a campaign on its head. really it's what you cannot see. we'll bring in former ambassador nicholas burns to bring us through global hot spots that could effect the campaign. and we'll play an electoral map with our map. you see my dream scenario, sorry kansas. i had to give them one. it's wednesday night in "the war room," and we're just getting started. we'll be right back.

[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> jennifer: in a moment like this in the middle of presidential election it's fair to ask what mitt romney would do if he were president. how would he comfort and protect our nation while strengthening international alliances and maintaining our overseas objectiveses, and mitt romney tried to answer that at a press conference today. >> romney: the attacks in libya and egypt underscore that the world remains a dangerous place and that american leadership is still soree needed. in the face of this violence, america cannot shrink from the responsibility to lead. american leadership is necessary

to insure that events in the region do not spin out of control. >> jennifer: i wonder what that even means. i mean you can't just repeat the word lead, leader, leadership, and expect that to make a leader. what would romney do in this situation? i wonder if he even knows himself. if we're going to consider him seriously as commander in chief what he would do. and if he won't tell us, we have to go after what we do. of the 24 special visors on foreign policy to romney, 17 are bush-cheney alumni who bear responsibility for some decisions in the nations. warning in those

words could not be more clear. back again to discuss libya and how foreign relations crises could effect the election. lawrence korb, and joining us from boston, nicholas burns thanks both of you is a gentlemen, for coming inside "the war room." let me start with this question. the secretary of defense, donald rumsfeld former secretary of defense, tweeted today in defense of mitt romney. he tweeted the attacks on our embassies and diplomats are a result of perceived american weakness. mitt romney is right to point that out. ambassador burns what is your opinion of romney's decision to come out in the middle of this crisis and his campaign using the events in libya as a way to attack the president on foreign

policy? >> well, i was dismayed by governor romney's comments because he really should have waited until the dust settled. he should have waited to have all the facts. to make one statement in the middle of the crisis when our embassy in cairo is being desieged and the term events in benghazi where ambassador chris stevens and three others were killed. for him to make the serious charges that he made, he said that the obama administration were showing sympathy to terrorists. i watched president obama and secretary clinton make their statements today. they were tough-minded statements and in no way shape or form did they seek to apologize or seek sympathy for the terrorists. they wouldn't. it has been a calamityous day.

for mitt romney. and unfortunately when we should have been honoring or diplomats killed. >> jennifer: do you think that it damages our credibility in the middle east to see this presentation of our presence in the middle east? >> you know this obviously. but when you live overseas for an extended period of time. i did, i was a career diplomat, people pay attention to what the united states says and does. we are the leading global power. we are a major presence around the world. of course people are going to look at this and wonder why we're having an argument in the united states, a political argument when in fact, we have been attacked, both in cairo and in bengahzi.

we lost a great young ambassador in chris stevens. we lost three outstanding completion of his. and our whole focus should be on that story protecting our embassies, and one would hope even in the midst of a political campaign i'm not a politician, but americans would rally around their government in a time of crisis, and this is a time of crisis. i was i was dismayed to see these statements by governor romney. >> jennifer: of course rom libya is just one hot spot in the middle east. what do you think of president obama's foreign policy in the region over all and how a romney administration would differ. for instance iran, escalateing tensions between iran and israel. larry, can you comment on the difference between them? >> the interesting thing when governor romney said this is a result of obama's weakness, the fact of the matter is that he's very strong.

when history is written they'll find out that these people are upset that they got bin laden we got al-qaeda's number two in the arabian peninsula. it's not a sign of weakness, it's a sign of strength. i agree with the ambassador, and i worked with president reagan. during the campaign in 1980, you had the failed attempt to rescue the hostages in iran. president reagan said this is a time for americans to come together. he didn't criticize president carter. when the marines were killed in lebanon in 1983, the democrats did not use this as as a campaign issue. i think he's barking up the wrong tree. president obama has been very strong and tough-minded when it comes to dealing with this. he has been criticized for his

overuse of drones, for example killing people without due process. so no, it's not a sign of weakness. if anything he has been very very strong. >> jennifer: i'm interested, though in how the other hot spots might impact or the difference between them and this. i can't figure out what the difference is between what mitt romney's position is on, say iran or on syria or on libya from what the president's position is. is there a big difference between them? >> i don't see it. excuse me. please go ahead. >> yeah, i don't think rhetorically they might be, but both of them said we will not let iran get a nuclear weapon. even president obama said we're not going to try to contain them which a lot of foreign policy realists want him to do. i think if there were--i think you'll find out after a campaign people get in and they have to deal with the world as it is,

not as they said in the campaign, and i think it would not be that much different. i mean, we're not going to send ground forces into syria, for example. the idea that some how or another that we would attack iran before we had everything in order, and could, you know, exhaust other remedies, i don't think that would happen either. american people don't want another war. >> jennifer: right mr. ambassador besides the saber-rattling language, is there much difference? >> i don't see it. i was in iran for george w. bush. i think democrats and republicans, there is a rough agreement in our country that we want to stop iran from becoming a nuclear power but we have sanctions and diplomacy before we turn to the use of force. i don't see anyone in

washington, d.c. of consequence thinks we ought to go to war. i think in a foreign policy you tend to have a lot of bipartisanship except during presidential campaign when the campaigns try to create differences that really don't exist. >> jennifer: so much to ask and unfortunately we're out of time. i appreciate both of you gentlemen coming inside "the war room"." lawrence korb and ambassador nicholas burns. thank you. up next, this comes up in the middle east while congress is had haggling over budget. we'll be right back. visit geico.com for a free rate quote.

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states to withdraw. >> it would really dishonor the service of chris stevens and the three other americans who served in libya if their murders forced us to stop supporting the new libya government. >> jennifer: those were senators joe lieberman and john mccain urging to maintain the american presence in libya and egypt. as it stands the u.s. gives $4.1 million to libya but house republicans are urging today's events to push for cutting that funding. they want to take it out of the federal funding bill, which is going to keep the country from falling off the so-called fiscal cliff. at a heritage foundation event tea party freshman jess landries

said, it would show a tremendous amount of leadership if the president were to come back and demand the amount of money that was given to libya and egypt be stripped out. remember the regimes in place in those two countries came out of his policy. he built that. so you couldn't help but springing that zinger during a fiscal crisis. go on. the house votes tomorrow which would extend funding through march and prevent a shutdown before the election. coming from us from those policy shocked waves is reporter and political punish can't joe williams. welcome inside back "the war room." >> good to be here, governor. >> jennifer: good to have you back. do you think the house republicans will get their way cutting foreign aid, and can you call for more defense spending

and less foreign aid at the same time? >> that's a big question. and that's one they're going have to answer. defense spending and diplomat i can spending that we have in libya and egypt are basically minuscule parts of the federal budget. number two they're inextricably linked to defense policy. you can't go in with a big stick and expect people to throw rose petals to your feet without diplomatic engagement. the statements they're making regarding this, i don't think it will go very far. >> jennifer: so do you think that cutting aid to libya and egypt becomes some new political talking point for the election. would it work for voters? >> i don't think so, mainly because it's such a small part of the budget, and you have people who are fairly on obscure in the republican-led house talking

about this. romney is not talking about this, and after today he probably should not talk much about libya, but it shows lack of understanding of how diplomacy works and how our influence is spread throughout the region. what happened yesterday in bengahzi was not a function of the libyan government itself, but when a small faction manages to infiltrate itself and have heavy weapons at its disposal and do what it wants to the embassy. >> jennifer: as we know the libyan government did come out and condemn those attacks. let me switch you slightly, related to defense spending and all of the budget, let's take a listen to representative boehner's prediction for avoiding the fiscal cliff. to remind our viewers the fiscal cliff is when the bush-era tax cuts expire and

massive cuts in january. take a listen. >> listen, the house has done its job on both the sequester and the looming tax hikes that will cost our economy some 700,000 jobs. the senate at some point has to act. on both of these where is the president? where is the leadership? absent without leave. >> jennifer: whatever. moody's issued a stern warning that the u.s. could be downgraded if congress does not reach a deal. what is it going to take to get a deal? >> it's going to take the 11th hour. we've seen this movie before where congress always delays its home work until the last minute. we know this is coming every year. it's almost like christmas where we have some kind of fiscal dire consequences that congress is facing unless they do something. in this case boehner is being a bit specious in his criticism of

the senate and the president. the house republicans did not want to go along with this deal in the first place. boehner had to corral many of them and basically twist their arms because you have a lot of tea party freshman republicans who wanted nothing to do with any spending plan that president obama was in favor off. on the contrary you have a senate who put forward a very responsible budget bill which went nowhere in the house. the president is the president but he's not head of the tea party caucus. he is not the guy in control of the senate where boehner holds sway. to criticize the president on this issue gets away from the issue. that's the fact that boehner has a coalition in his government that he really can't control. >> jennifer: very quickly, i want to get your prediction. first, romney wins the white house and everything else stays the same, do they get a deal on the fiscal cliff on lame duck. >> i think they do mainly because president obama will have leverage--

>> jennifer: my first scenario was that romney wins. >> peg your pardon. i was thinking the unthinkable. it looks like a long shot given what romney did? >> jennifer: yes. >> if romney is elected president, there is incentive although they may walk it back to get romney a chance to get on the budget. >> jennifer: and if the status quo stays the same, and president obama wins. >> their position would be repudiated by the voters, they don't want to get blamed for driving the economy off the fiscal cliff. >> jennifer: i totally agree with you on that. that is joe williams, prognosticateor extraordinaire. we'll see if your prognostications end up being true. up next, we'll go through

election scenarios with duf sundheim and christine pelosi. i think duf will need a stiff drink after we run the math for him. you're in the war room on current tv.

[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> the president stepped up to the ball and refused to cede the automobile industry to germany or japan korea or anywhere else in the world. [applause] that's why. that's why today here in the state of ohio there are 115,000 decent-paying auto jobs in ohio that you can raise a family on. [applause] >> jennifer: yeah, that's vice president joe biden on the campaign front, in today done dayton, ohio,

with a message tailored for michigan and ohio. biden's counterpart, paul ryan, spent the day in ohio and wisconsin. we've got biden over here. we have ryan over there. we got president obama in las vegas over here in a bid for nevada's elect elect forral votes and two new polls out today caught our eye. out of michigan, an epic nra poll in our great state of michigan likely voters shows president obama leading 47% to 37%! it makes me wonder if romney is regretting letting automobile industry go bankrupt. and president obama is 48% over

43 nationwide. here with us to break down the campaign front are two of our favorite political insiders christine pelosi chairs the democratic california women's caucus. and duf sundheim. welcome to you both. great to see you, as well. duf, i want to start with you. >> sure. >> jennifer: i'm interested in the electoral map. this is the board with the numbers. obama 237 and with these swing states going one way. tell me what romney's path is to get that 191 to reach 270? >> first of all the path is longer for romney than obama. obama is ahead in terms of the electoral college. the first to win is north carolina. >> jennifer: i'll tap that and make it go red.

>> then the second would be florida. >> jennifer: all right. >> wisconsin and iowa corridor with the ryan impact. that's where i think he's strongest. >> jennifer: you're picking wisconsin because of ryan. >> and iowa. i think the numbers in wisconsin are closing. they're moving to the right direction and they continue to move. i think he has a better chance in colorado and nevada than ohio. first of all, virginia is another chance where it can go either way. >> jennifer: if he gets virginia. >> then he's close. then he has to win either one of those two then he wins. >> jennifer: that's a tall order, man. >> that's how i start it. that is a tall order. in ohio, they have to come back in ohio. >> jennifer: christine, of course we said last night if he losses florida, romney has to run the tables. >> pretty much has the run the table. which is why it's unfortunate for him that he made all of his mistakes about libya today in the state of florida where

everybody could see that. >> jennifer: we're going to talk about libya in just one second. i want to you live to a commercial that he has--that obama is starting to run in swing states. take a listen. >> mitt romney, he won't reveal what is in his taxes and he won't tell you what he would do to yours. to pay for huge new tax breaks for millionaires like him romney would have to raise taxes on the middle middle class. >> jennifer: so this issue, and i'm going to ask you, christine, of not revealing again this whole mystery candidate, not revealing tax returns not telling you his plans, is this a theme that will run through the rest of the pain--campaign. >> we have been saying on the show, campaigns are to be defined or redefined. bill clinton made it clear if you run the numbers millionaires get a tax break and you and i tax increase. that's not fair. until he runs the numbers and

gets specific our numbers will win the day and we'll get the election. >> it's not fair that you're running the statements. it's ridiculous. you're saying he's going to do this raise taxes where are you getting these numbers. >> we're getting them from a nonpartisan institute. they give and they take away. right now they're giving and taking away. >> jennifer: i'm interested particularly in your reaction with what did go on today and how that will impact the election. is that a game changer that he put his foot into the middle of something before it was even over, before he knew what was going on. >> what is really interesting the obama administration disowned the statement told them not to release the statement in egypt. then romney agrees with the white house that that statement should not be released, and then there is a furor.

that's the truth. >> jennifer: our ambassador in libya was killed. after he was killed you would think that romney would take a step back and instead of blaming obama with issues, something more solemn statement that had him looking presidential. he didn't. rather than fighting over a statement that people made-- >> which was a failed statement. >> excuse me, have you ever been under siege? i'll give the embassy personnel trying to save their own lives the benefit of the house. >> even when the white house said that was the wrong thing to do. >> jennifer: i want to argue with you guys all night but we have to go. >> this is not going to work. duf, if this is the best you can do for romney. >> jennifer: we have to give him a break. give him points for coming in any way. up next, my gut tells me that obama-care might become the piece of legislation that--watch it--hang their hat on for the

next 50 years. the new numbers are starting to bear that out. that is next, and we'll be right back. go.

>> jennifer: releasing the annual income poverty and healthcare report, and guess what, the affordable care act happens to be working. there are now more than 260 million people who are insured in the united states. that's about 5 million more than in 2010. great news. for the first time in four years the number of people with health insurance actually increased. that's partly due to the law enabling young adults to stay on their parents' insurance until they're 26. today, an extra 540,000 young adults are insured because of that provision. but will that convince people in swing states like colorado that

obama-care was, in fact, a good idea. here with me to discuss that swing state is david sirota. he co-hosts the "run down," a radio talk show in denver. glad to have you back inside "the war room." >> thanks for having me. >> jennifer: you bet. pleasure' onyou're on this radio show, you're listening to people, have you heard people talk about obama-care kids staying on their parents insurance. >> it's a huge problem. it's a national problem on the local level. people are not all that psyched by the care of obama-care and president obama's healthcare bill is not necessarily popular. but the tenants of the bill are quite popular. when you go one level down with folks out here, my callers to my

show, for instance, well, do you support the ban on discrimination because of pre-existing condition? do you support allowing older children to stay on their parents' insurance. the answer is overwhelmingly yes. then the question do you support the president's healthcare bill? then they say no. >> jennifer: i attach the word obama and then people go the other direction. the report today showed--this is the census report that shows poverty rate remains at 15%. that is unchanged from the previous year. is income inequality resonating at all in colorado? >> absolutely. now look i'm a right-leaning radio station so i get conservative callers. but even among conservative callers, rank and file conservatives, the question of how unequal we are is a big question. people will say well, i'm not necessarily i support what the democrats want to do. i'm not necessarily i support

what the republicans want to do. but i don't like the idea that someone like mitt romney is paying a lower effective tax rate than i am. that's what resonates. that's the real-world application of that. >> jennifer: so you're listening to all these folks in colorado. i'm so fascinated by talk show anyway, and you're on a right-leaning one, what was your audience thinking regarding the ongoing news out of libya and egypt today and mitt romney stepping in it? >> i think there is a lot of confusion out there. i think people realize the middle east is a difficult place, and you hear the obama administration backed the arab spring, and we don't know what the elements are in the arab spring. then you hear people who don't necessarily think that it's a choice between the arab spring and unfortunately arab dictators. there is not necessarily all that many perfect choice there is. now, i would say and i said it today on my show, look, i would

rather have democratically led leaders in the middle east than the united states standing with dictators. when we stand with dictators then people under the dictatorship really don't like it. >> jennifer: did you get a sense at all today that your listeners found that mitt romney, though, was in error? >> i think people had questions about why--that implication that the president sympathizes with those who caused americans and the american embassy great harm. i think that was where the idea really i think crossed a line. i think people--you know, they want the presidential candidates to seem for lack of a better term presidential. mitt romney did not seem presidential today. >> jennifer: right so now the presidential race is affected by media. you obviously have your fingers in a number of media platforms. you have a super interesting

article in harpers. how did the quote newly minted newspaper monopolyist as you describe them play in the political process. >> today in the denver post which i call citizen kane had an editorial how rahm emmanuel in chicago should break the backs of the chicago teachers strike. this i think goes to why president obama hasn't taken a position on the teacher's union strike. he knows that in a swing state like colorado that can be decided by a few thousand votes if he came out in support of the union, i wish he did but he's nervous he may be the target of a front page editorial in the state's biggest newspaper and the state's biggest newspaper is so now so important because of the monopoly status that it has that it could seriously

undermine his chances of winning the swing state. i'm not saying that he shouldn't take a position on the teacher's strike but newspapers can use their power in a swing state to effect positions by politicians on major issues. >> jennifer: it's such a fascinateing article. that's david sirota, author of "back to our future," another great read. up next, brett erlich catches up with paul ryan on the campaign trail. or one of the campaign trails any way. >> coming up i'll have undeniable proof that paul ryan wants to swing both ways. don't go away.

[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> jennifer: since the start of the germ election, my advice to the romney-ryan ticket has been simple. don't quit your day jobs, gentlemen. and as brett erlich tells us, at least one-half of the team has taken the advice to heart. so shh brett's talking now. >> so paul ryan is running for vice president, but if you live in wisconsin's first district you may have seen an ad for another office. >> this is our chance to restore real faith and real opportunity in america. i'm paul ryan, and i approve this message. >> yes, that's right. ryan is still running for congress in wisconsin. even though if he wins the vice presidency he's off to

washington. in that mind don't the good people of wisconsin deserve a honest straightforward campaign ad like this one. >> i'm paul ryan, from wisconsin, the land of cheese and i don't know cows that make cheese. it's a beautiful place. but it's a place that i'm too good for. that's why i'm running for vice president. but you know how these things are, i could lose, so i was hoping in case this v.p. thing does not work out, wisconsin, i would be honored if you would be my plan-b. no, not that kind of plan-b. that's murder. would you be my hood rats, my 12:00 a.m. booty call. why? because i would give you specifics, but quite frankly mitt romney just won't let me. paul ryan for v.p. and for congress. yes, i'm trying to end voter fraud, but come on, vote for me twice. i'm paul